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[page 623] having knowledge and being criminally implicate in that transaction and defalcation? A. I told him of it and I told the trustees and members of the Council. Q. Did you charge to any living person at that time that Dr. Harlow had knowledge? A. Certainly. Q. If that transaction? A. Certainly I told him of it; I did most certainly. Q. To whom did you tell that fact? A. I told it to Mr. Woodbury of Bethel and to Col. Shorey of the trustees. I met them several times at the hospital. Q. Did you believe at that time that Dr. Harlow, when that statement of miss Caruthers was made to him, believed it? A. I dont know whether he believed it or not. Q. Whether at that time you believed that Dr. Harlow actually did or did not believe the remark of Miss. Caruthers? A. I cannot answer that any better than to tell you what I told him at that time, that when she made such a charge as that and it could be proved in one hour, it was worth investigating.