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1191 A. (cont.) from the other trustees who had visited it during the year. Q. Did you see Mr. Chase sign that report? A. I did not, I think his name was appended to the report. I know he was aware of the contents because he and I had talked it over. By Mr. Butler Q. Do you regard Mr. Chase a gentleman of truth? A. So far as I know Q. You would not question his sober word? A. I have never seen anything to lead me to do that. By Mr. Baker Q. How long since your acquaintance with Mr.Chase has ceased substantially? A. I have not seen him for a few years. That report was made in 1873 or 1874, he had an office on Water St. and I used to drop in during the next summer, do not think longer than that. Q. Did your acquaintance with him begin substantially with the origin of this report? A. I had never know him before. Q. You spoke of having examined the reports of other asylums and found as to the proportion of cure this hospital to compare favorably with those? A. More than the average a good deal. Q. Do you regard the curative power of a hospital as